Wednesday, April 25, 2012

From Vienna to Salzkammergut to Salzburg

I am going to do Salzkammergut in the opposite direction.



I will start in Gmunden and end in salzburg.





The places I want to visit: Gmunden, Bad Ischl,



Hallstatt, Dachsteineischohle- Ice Cave, St. Wolfgang, St. Gilgen.



I have about 2 and a half days in Salzkammergut area.





I need some advice, how long shoud i spend in each place, is it too little or too much for 2.5 days?



if too little where else should i go.



also i want to know where should I spend the first and the second night. I was thinking first night in Hallstatt and second in St. Gilgen but I don%26#39;t know if it is good.






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Hallstatt is a pretty calm village not really capable as base except someone desires absolute silence. I personally think that Bad Ischl is a good base as it is in the midde of all the mentioned places. Moreover it is a lively, little town with various facilities you won%26#39;t find in the small villages. Bad Ischl is also an interchange in the region serving both railway and regional buses. To avoid unpacking and packing I would stay there for both nights. At the end of your stay take the direct bus to Salzburg (route #150/~90 minutes) that hourly leaves from the bus terminal in Bad Ischl. Two and a half day are basically a good timeframe to tour the region.




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thanks for your reply.



i forgot to mention that i am traveling with a rented car.




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Even better! The only disadvantage is - if going on a ferry ride which is a must on most lakes - you must go back to the stop where you left. E.g. is the ferry between St. Wolfgang and St. Gilgen. I would still remain in Bad Ischl as its good access to public transportation is only an additional plus beside its strategically good location. I would do the places in the South (Hallstatt, Obertraun) with your car and the Wolfgangsee Area on public transportation. For that take the direct bus from Bad Ischl to St. Wolfgang, tour the village and go up to Schafberg Mountain, when finished take the ferry to St. Gilgen (~45 minutes) and finally get back to Bad Ischl by bus #150. If you are not interested in that, well then logically take your car - it is just an suggestion. Just be aware that St. Wolfgang is rather remotely located. Going from St. Wolfgang to St.Gilgen by car is not as easy/fast as it probably appears.




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The wolfgang area will probably be on the 3rd day.



so i would have to take the bus from bad ischl to wolfgang after that take the ferry to giligen and from there take a bus back to bad ischl and at the same day drive from bad ischl to Salzburg.





I was thinking instead maybe driving to Giligen



from there take ferry to wolfgang and ferry back to giligen. After that Drive from Giligen to Salzburg.





the second option seems faster what is your opinion?



What is the price for the ferry (one direction)?




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I agree no need to stay in Halstatt, vey lovely but a couple of hours is enough IMO unless you%26#39;ve already seen the area and just want to chill out.





Just alternative opinion, I don%26#39;t want to go against Mickey, but we enjoyed St.Gilgen as a base. It%26#39;s only a 40 min drive to Hallstatt. It%26#39;s a great day out without the car to take the ferry to St Wolfgang, train to the summit, ferry to Stroble for a walk, back to St.Gilgen for a cable car to the summit and then chill for dinner in St.Gilgen.





Not much to do at night in St.Gilgen, just relax over a beer and dinner in a village atmosphere, but after sightseeing all day that%26#39;s all we wanted and felt it nicer than being in a city like Bad Ischl.





Whatever you choose, definitely two nights in the same base. With your own car these places are not far to travel.





Stoofer




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As always, there are many many options that all work well. Actually it is not problem at all to take the ferry twice. I just thought that once is enough. Many visitors going to this region request a very tight itinerary in order to accommodate as much as possible in pretty less time.




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The single fare of the ferry is slightly more than 6€.




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Hi, Chaa12,





I just want to share my experience with you and hope that may give some hints for your planning.





I went to the Salzkammergut area in second half of August and stayed there for two nights. I travelled with my family (totally 3) by train. I chose Bad Ischl as the base as this town is the biggest among all you had mentioned, and more choices for restaurants, easy traffic connection, shopping and walking around, at least in my opinion.





I went to St. Wolfgang by bus and ferry to St. Gilgen. After then, return to Bad Ischl by bus. It is easy and a pleasant trip. The bus station in St. Wolfgang is a 5 minutes walk to the ferry terminal.





On the following day, I took the train to Obertraun and by bus to Dachstein for the ice cave. Firstly, we took gondola up to the base. Then it is at least another 15 minutes walk up a steep lane to the cave entrance. (Some people take more time as the walk is quite challenging bearing in mind that we are already in the highland.) Quite a lot of people took several rests before arriving at the entrance. It is an hourly tour and takes around 45 - 50 minutes each. Again, inside the cave, we had to walk up and down the stairs and everyone was breath-catching. Nevertheless, it is a nice trip and we enjoyed it. (There is a restaurant there that you can consider for lunch.)





After then, we took bus to Hallstatt. Vehicle entry to the town was restricted at the time of my visit. It is very beautiful. Then by ferry to the opposite side of the lake for train back to Bad Ischl.





We were exhausted and felt tired for two days after visiting the Ice Cave. I and my wife are in the late forties, quite active and are used to workout for some years. So spare more time for the day that you schedule for visiting the Ice Cave.





Hope the above helps.

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