Friday, March 23, 2012

Kitzbuhel, Ischgl or Saalbach

Which one (Kitzbuhel, Ischgl or Saalbach) would be most fun for skiing and after ski for the second week of March 2010? Any other suggestions? I am looking for a good snow conditions and a lot of people. We would be eating out and are not that interested in clubbing. Other options? We will fly to Munich and take a train from there. Thanks.




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Of these 3, I would choose Ischgl.



It has it all that you look for. Excelent snow conditons, especially at the tie of your visit. Many hotels are found near to the various lifts taking you from the town to the high mountains.



The town has a fantastic choice of apre ski both on the mountain and in town.



it is a fvorite of a younger international crowd.



The only disadvantage would be a longer transfer time from Munich airport but certainly worth an hour or little more extra.





Saalbach would be my 2nd choice as it offers many of the same things as Ischgl and also perhaps just a little chaeper.





Kitzbuhel often has suspect snow conditions at lower slopes, often early or late in the ski season. You find most accomodtions not near to the lifts and often a ski bus ride is needed. A friend once said to me that he will never go there again as you can not ski on the name , you need good snow. Busy nightlife.



The town seems full of people trying to be somebody , often never finding their way to the snow.



Pricing seems high for what you receive.



Just my feelings but you ask for comments.




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Agree with Bruno. I am biased as Ischgl is my favourite resort and ski there at least 3 times during the season including Easter. It is very snow-sure. Three main Gondolas and valley runs servicing most of the village. Good apres ski near the Silvretta-Bahn and the Hotel Elisabeth. Saalbach also good choice for extensive skiing. I wouldn%26#39;t consider Kitzbuehel because of the altitude. There are so many higher altitude resorts that you could choose from (eg. Serfaus/Fiss/Ladis, Soelden, St Anton) to try to ensure good snow conditions.





Ischgl - I drive there normally less than 3 hours.



Various possible train services from Munich Ostbahnhof to Landeck. Sometimes 1, 2 changes and takes between 2:50 to 3:35. The local bus 4240 runs from the Landeck-Zams Train station to Ischgl once an hour during the day (journey takes about 1hr).




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What´s all that talk about bad snow in Kitzbuhel in spring? I live in Kitzbühel and I can tell you that especially in March and April snow conditions are usually great and skiing is even better than in high season (becaus it´s less crowded). More than 70% of the pists are covered with artificial snow facilities, so you don´t hav to worry about good snow in Kitzbuhel at the end of the season!



I do like skiing in the higher, wilder areas as Sölden or Arlberg, but in Spring I prefer Kitzbühel, alos because of the excelent huts with their sunny terraces!



We did also get already some snow last week, to be seen her: www.kitzalps.com/livecams




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I believe most resorts in many portions of Austria received snow last week.



Kitz just one of those many places.





I agree with the other assessments given by giftzwerg and bruno.





Kitz with so much good snow and snowmaking - why then was it needed to cancel World Cup ski races ?





Does Mother Hulda still work for the Tourist office as before ?




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Mother Hulda does indeed work for the local tourist office in Kitzbuhel !



However what she says is correct, and in fact the races you refer to were cancelled due to extremely dangerous wind conditions rather than lack of snow.



I think the town has something for everyone, and is picture postcard pretty too.




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I would like to remind the above poster of a race just a few years ago. -World Cup of of the famous Kitz races-Forced to cancel for lack of snow.



How can one forget the Austrian Army troops assisting to spread and pack snow delivered by trucks from far away in a futile attempt to cover large areas that were green and brown.



Even a fleet of large helicopters worked to transport snow during this frantic time. All this huge effort could not bring enough snow and make a workable course. Who really knows the true cost of this unsuccessful and wasted exercise.





This- dangerous winds ? I would consider this just one example of lack of snow.





And this not the only time .




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Whilst i cannot argue with what you say Vertical, according to the Ski Club of Great Britain the resort of Saalbach closed one week EARLIER than Kitzbuhel in 2009, and its ski altitude is just 97m higher than Kitzbuhel.



Major UK tour operators all finish their ski programmes to Saalbach either one or two weeks before Kitzbuhel.



This hardly makes it a better choice for a March ski holiday...



I fully accept that Ischgl is a different case.



As an aside i would point out that Kitzbuhel is hardly unique in having ski races cancelled due to lack of snow. It has happened frequently all over the alps in recent years.



Global warming ? Who knows ? Best wishes to you....




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Yes it is impossible to argue with facts about the races.. Your contention %26quot; In fact races you refer to were cancelled due to extremely dangerous wind conditions rather than lack of snow.%26quot;



Simply wrong.





The facts



2007 races cancelled due to lack of snow and warm temperaturs this insite of massive attempts to import snow as previously described.



2005 races cancelled due to rain, warm temperatures and poor snow conditions





2008 race had the course shortened due to high winds





2006 course shortened due to fog.





Some look to the altitude of the resort as a guide to snow - fact





Kitz town at 700 -800 meters



saalbach 1000 meters plus.





Ischgl much higher still 1300 + meters?





Kitz loses again.





British tour operators schedules for tours - hardly a criteria for best choices of resort and skiing.




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Oh dear i have opened up a can of worms....



I was in my original post only referring to the 2008 race, which you yourself concede was cancelled due to high winds. The race is held in January, so it has to be said that ANY ski resort in Austria would be pretty unlucky to have poor snow conditions. Bad luck Kitzbuhel i would say.



Some people do look at a resorts altitude, but that does not mean you can SKI at this height. Macchu Picchu in Peru is 10,000 feet above sea level, but you cant ski here !!



Why would any ski operator schedule holidays to a ski resort if they didnt think there would be snow ? As i work in the trade i think its a valid point .



I have already conceded that Ischgl is probably a better bet in March, but im sorry Kitz is at least the equal of Saalbach, and based on FACTS supplied by the Ski Club of Great Britain is probably a better choice.




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Can of worms - No - you just dig a bigger hole for yourself.



If you read closely , I wrote that the 2008 race had its course shortened due to high winds . I did not say it was cancelled.It was you who mentions the race cancelled due to high winds. Rather that staement was made by you if I remember correctly.





The races I mention can be confirmed as cancelled and for the reasons stated. You can not have a world cup race of this statue on grass or poor snow situations.





It seems that you have not been to Kitz in the winter or perhaps are also not a skier. By your postings inquiring about Kitz for a summer visit , one could conclude that your first visit was last summer.



My mention of altitude was referring to the low altitude of Kitz and thus its lower slopes. Note my mention of altitude Kitz 700-800 meters and Saalbach at 1000 meters.



Anyone familiar with skiing and mountains will know that altitude has a great influence on temperatures.



Generally the higher you are , the lower the temperature.





My statements had nothing to do with the highest altitudes .



January is one of the coldest months of the year in the mountains. If temperatures will not allow snow and or snow making , it is proper to assume that March with warmer weather and more sun has the potential for much worse snow situations. The Kitz record speaks for itself .





It is not bad luck but rather location that makes a difference most often.





Saalbach and Ischgl are both better than Kitz in my opinion.





For the endorsement of the Ski Club of Great Britain , I could probably find many more that would make quite opposite views.







Saalbach acknowledged to have the largest connecting ski resort in Austria.





You are apparently in the tourism %26quot; trade %26quot;in some capacity.by your statements.





I am just a private person in no way related to any form of tourist business.



I ski , send much time in the mountains for some years summer and winter.



I offer my opinions based upon experiences not on any other interest.

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